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Post by Asmaa Ul Haque on Jul 3, 2007 11:23:35 GMT 5
AOA
here r some good advice for us from my respectable school teacher mam Saima.She is doing welfare work for past 13 years MashaAllah.
1)You should have proper appointment holders, like president, general secretary, treasurer, marketting incharge, executive members and members.
2-Maintain proper record of meetings, finances etc.
3-You should have the monogram of the society.
4-You should have letter heads to contact the companies.
5-Contact the Pharmacuetical Companies. They will certainly provide medicines free of cost.
6-Make long term agreement with the compnaies.
7-Go for the monthly funding rather than for the amount that is given for one time only. --------------meaning that if you are coming to me for the fund and I give you Rs. 2000/= and then do not give you any money for two years, then this amount is too less in comparison to Rs. 200/ month that will take you to not only a regular amount of fund, but also bring more money in your funs without burdening the donor.
8-Welcome any amount from the members and non- members. any amount.
9-Contact doctors for the free check ups. Tell them the number of the patients you will be taking to them weekly and do not leave it as an open option. Number will convince them for the free check ups and an open optiopn will not let them agree to your proposal. ---------------------------further explained me as "if you are a specialied doctor and I am coming to contact you for the welfare of patients, I will say " Madam ( After very impressive brief introduction ) We want you to kindly check up only two patients daily. Thge patient will come with our letter and required brief medical history and identity card of the society".
10-Contact other medical based welfare organizations for your patients. One of the organization is Pakistan Cleft Palate Association. They can help you and you can help them by providing them medicines and they can treet your cleft palate patients free. They need the services of doctors as well. Contact Dr Ejaz 03006209834 and 03338411313. Contact him for exchange of welfare work.
i think point 6 that making long term aggreement is really good idea.we r already doing good on some point like 1 and 3 so neglect them.
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Post by Furqan Sherazi on Jul 14, 2007 0:24:34 GMT 5
thats a great idea
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Post by Furqan Sherazi on Jul 14, 2007 0:29:47 GMT 5
i am thinking about another thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what about having few senior doctors and professors of each section on which we are working e-g diabetic,asthma...........
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''PANEL OF EXPERTS''
they would help us in arranging medical camps and doctors for them.
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Post by Umar Tariq on Jul 14, 2007 3:05:30 GMT 5
good bunch of ideas! good job asma and furqan! keep it up! furqan i would like you to post some details about this panel of experts! waise your idea sounds good buddy!
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Post by Umar Tariq on Jul 14, 2007 3:07:57 GMT 5
asma ur ideas are also good but lets discuss them one by one! as far as long term agreement with companies is concerned, i am already working on it but i would like you to post the details of this and other noteworthy points that how do u want these changes to take place!
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Post by Ali Rukh on Jul 19, 2007 13:06:05 GMT 5
i m happy to see that we still have the people like asma who think good.that is the great idea to make regular donors.... some people who used to donate on regular basis. Bilal Sufi ,SUFI soap wale, a lady running a parlour in defence ,i dont remeber her name, nestle but not a regular donor but they used to help. we kept our boxes at various deparmental stores like HKB n Hang Ten etc. u can keep them again . ONE THING I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT PEOPLE ARE READY TO DONATE A LOT BUT THEY GET WORRIED WHETHER THERE MONEY WOLUD BE SPENT ON THE RIGHT PLACE. ASSURE THEM BY UR WORK.....make the projects,do paper work in a decent way ,by making graphs, cost estimations ,drawing, in short a very presention of what u wanna do.......for this u need a group enthusiastic people......search them out!!!! a challenge;-) keep ur boxes at bus stands n lock them up,keep the kees with u.
when i was president i did start the project of convincing people for cornea donation .Doctor Waqar, in room no 16 myo OPD, guided me much.
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Post by fakeha on Jul 28, 2007 11:57:13 GMT 5
a-a everyone....i think we shud b responsible n determinant....its a team work... every member must b on duty in outdoor 19 at regular intervals for the proper guidance of patients...n 2ndly it will distribute the duties of all of us...hope it will play a great role in improvement of society....inshallah.....
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Post by Furqan Sherazi on Jul 28, 2007 17:33:54 GMT 5
i am having points in favors as; 1- we will establish a cordial link with our professors 2- we will have more people in our favour 3- we will have camps arranged more easily and in greater no 4- they can help us in concession in medicines(untill we develop our own repo) 5- we can arrange our functions more easily inside the campus 6- we can also have them as our regular donars(or in finding other donars) 7- we can have people verifying our work and let people acknowledge our work
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Post by Nadeem Butt on Jul 29, 2007 15:10:20 GMT 5
aoa every body i am slightly concerned about furqan's suggestions.... furqan! inviting more people from professors will bring more problems in terms of political correctness... possible complications are too many with senior medical staff coz of different groups and rifts with management... and let me tell u honestly if they were respnosible enough.. u would not have to do as much work .. its unfortunate but true,,, are u sure u want to try that ,, my job is to advise you as i have seen those places before u .. if u can believe what i say ,, good... if u want to see it for urself (and thats very good as well as u will learn for urself) .. still we will try to ease up things once these start going wrong... and they will go wrong end of the day as rizwan bhai said ,, he never bother contacting any body before putting any work like sign boards in place just coz they dont care,, they would not even notice that u are doing some thing.... they are good at one thing and thats a question what is SPWS doing?
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Post by Furqan Sherazi on Jul 30, 2007 11:54:46 GMT 5
NADEEM BHAI, couldn't we find some one good. we can also get only mere specialist(not professors) for that!!!!!!!!!!! you have said earlier that they will not even remember that they are our experts!!!! so why can't it be evil in blessing? ?? we can awake them only when we need some support!!!!!!!!!!!! otherwise let them sleep deeply!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we can create a sense of competetion among them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Nadeem Butt on Jul 30, 2007 14:20:03 GMT 5
furqan i love ur style,,, much needed determination ,, sorry but i am old and tired of trying even older people.... U ARE RIGHT THAT SOME BODY YOU CAN WAKE UP WHEN U NEED SOME SUPPORT ... i will let u choose some body as a test case and tell us who would u like to talk to and how would we benefit from them ... and some thing that our current 3 advisors and 1 patron cant do,,, what kind of porject u have in mind and how would u seek help from this person A lets make it a test case and we will do waht u want ,,, but u have to make a whole plan for it ,, u can ask for help whoever u like,,, in other words, i am asking that what exactly u have on mind
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Post by Furqan Sherazi on Jul 31, 2007 10:59:50 GMT 5
thanks for appreciating me!!!!!!!!!!!!
actually i want to make them formal as if only there role will be in arranging medical camps and demonstration in respective seminaar also(in order to avoid overlap or possible chances of rift)
1- they can provide us with trained doctors and staff. 2- they can help us in making contacts with pharmaceutical companies 3- we can start from even senior of spws working in mayo(as a suggestion if u like).
frankly speaking i haven't got specific idea in my mind rather it was a suggestion,if agreed then we will work upon it.but i am sure to find good people if we try..................
"DHONDNAY WALOO KO DUNYA BHEE NAI DATAY HAI"
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Post by mazhar on Jul 31, 2007 12:12:18 GMT 5
no problem!!!AB TO AADAT SE HO GYE HAY APPRECIATE KRNE KI FURQAN BHAI.ap tesion na liya kren!!!!
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Post by Nadeem Butt on Jul 31, 2007 21:18:41 GMT 5
hmmmmm i think we need to talk on phone or u need to talk to umar ... i am still trying to understand ur idea... u are doing medical camps.. do u think u need more frequent or better camps.. and what would u ask them that in what way u want them to help... do u want to take them to camps... people who are not willing to stay in hospital even their orginal 8-2 timings,, waht else u want me to expect from them... i am sure u can find better bunch (as i can recall few) ut they are in bad books of management and u will fall in same category.. i think i am quite old and cynical and i feel that on cost - benefit ratio , we will loose if we get more people on board.. i think we better try to utilize help from current bunch,,,, pharmaceuticals i can imagine ,, that if a consultant / prof asks them to give u donation ,, then they will do it ,.. but in that case u can chase ur current advisors to do the job for u and if u guys can make trips to them ,, they would agree.. talking about myself.. u have already got me ,, i am here to help any time u like,,, and we are going to make a senate kind board and we are waiting for finalisation to UK registration (bank account and website) and after that we will just ammend constiutuion accordingly... to accomodate different international representatives, country incharges, board members,,, to be honest, it makes sense that we should have some kind senior cover but how activelly u are using ur current bunch of supervisors that u need few more... u think that u have exahusted them already ... and if u get more trouble as u found in asthma seminar then is it worth it? u are studnet and thats the whole poin about u ,, ur speed of doing things is the main essence of SPWS... dont make ur self heavy with too many red tapes and advisors,,, thats waht i would recomment ,, I THINK FURQAN THAT APART FROM TWO OF US, NO ONE GOT ANY OPINION... ON THIS ISSUE..
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Post by Asmaa Ul Haque on Aug 1, 2007 0:09:24 GMT 5
Nadeem bhai and furqan thanks for ur input. InshaAllah ll look into this matter after we finish the jobs already in hand
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